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November 23, 2005, 12:27 AM
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René Descartes in 17th century proposed that bodies of animals are nothing more than complex machines. This is remarkably true, and it also applies to humans. Quote:
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November 23, 2005, 01:00 AM
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Are we a
virus?
(trying to get back on topic after the long off topic about human intelligence and computers ) Please, no more about computers vs human brain. So are we a virus? Even by Mr.Smith's definition, we aren't. Yeah we spread all over this planet and we use the Earth as a resource for everything, but are we the only living beings like that? Lets go for the "numerous" How about rats? Or cochroaches? or how about moss? Moss is all over the world along with grass and they quite numerous. If we wouldn't be around, there would be grass , moss, plans, trees. Same with bugs or microorganisms. Let's go by "killing off the planet" When we burn fossil fuel, we create carbon dioxide along with a bunch of "posiosnous" gases into the atmosphere, thus we are "killing" off the planet. 4 Billion years ago the athmosphere was made of H2O, hydrogen cyanide ,helium, ammonia , methane , sulfur, iodine, bromine, chlorine, argon etc. nasty stuff ...."poisonous". A single vulcanic eruption is capable raising/lowering the average tempreture for a month(s), along with releasing many of those nasty gases many times in mass, compare to a city releasing over months through polluting vehicles. Not to mention of the dust cloud covering the sun for days and vulcanic ashes and lava turning the local environment completely unhabitable. An that's all doing it without us. Or the ice age, freezing everything dead for thousands of years, or a meteor capable of sinking a continent or destroying a whole ecosystem along with 75% of all living things within minutes...depending on the size of the meteor. This whole thing is that "we are parasites" are only looked from the human perspective. Yeah us humans may die along taking some animals/plants/living things into extinction, but it's nothing , zippo not much compare to what else will happen. Life will go on, there will be another dominant organism or "parasite" or "virus-like" as we humans call it. Actually global warming is the cure for us. The Earth's "natural" medicine. Oceans will rise? so what? more fish to live. Warmer? some animals die from draught, some places there will be rainforests. We're just afraid of our own little precious existence. There natural "solutions" for being too numerous too. for example , viruses, diseases, those will keep our numbers down if we happen to over extend to much. This whole "we are a virus of this planet" thing is made up by humans, because - as someone already mentioned it -humans are shortsighted. A self-gloryfing, thing, that makes us feel important. Like we matter too much anyway. "we can destroy this planet" by being parasites, or take away all resources, yeah right, we are the resource ! wormfood. If not a virus, but maybe a "bad itch?" or a better "dirt under the nail?" This planet survived far worse things that humans have done or will do, I mean what does our 250 thousand years of human existence matter to a 4.5 billion years old planet anyway? I'm not even gonna go into the concept of the human capability that we destroy ourself, because that would throw away the whole "are we a virus" concept, since viruses don't destroy themselves. So that makes us even worse? pm-me if you got a question about my
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November 23, 2005, 01:58 AM
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Landgrave
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We are parasitic because we are damaging our
host without any benefit to the nature.
No organisms are more capable of causing such overall devastation of the nature than human. And in fact we are even more stupid and short-sighted than viruses because viruses cannot harm each other? Of course we're just afraid of our own little precious existence; otherwise we'd stop reproducing or start a nuclear war. 1. Air pollution KILLS Quote:
2. I suppose you can drink water safely from any random rivers? Quote:
3.Name a single organism capable of producing a radioactive waste. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_waste 4. Erin Brockovich won a case for what? Quote:
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6. I suppose whales can cause similar amount of damage to the environment as ships? Quote:
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8. I suppose you don't mind living in Chernobyl, and the accident was perfectly natural? Quote:
9. It seems that mother nature is better off without human... Quote:
10. We cannot sunbathe without sunscreen cream or lotion anymore. Quote:
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November 23, 2005, 02:21 AM
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We are like a virus in that we take alot from
our host(Earth) and give little in return. No other animal consumes as
many types of resources or the amount of resources that humans do. Most
other animals have a constant resource base and don't search out for new
types of resources. We contribute to the planet's atmosphere an unhealthy
amount of carbon, nitrogen, and sulfur. Our carbon contribution causes a
greenhouse effect that warms the planet up and is causing glaciers to melt
and coral reefs to decline. A large number of aquatic species have died
out over the past 30 years because of the bleaching of coral reefs. And
our sulfur and nitrogen contribution causes acid rain that is damaging to
plants and water bodies. There are other living things such as rats that
don't give much to the planet, but they don't cause that much harm to it
either. I doubt that we could ever destroy the planet, but we certainly
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November 23, 2005, 04:28 AM
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That's Ffips backwards
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Since we dont have any other species at out level to use as comparison of what we should be doing its kinda hard to draw any conclusions. If life on this planet can survive an 85% extinction rate from meteors though, i'm not going to be so arrogant as to assume it wont survive us TWC on Steam|TWC Wiki|TWC
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November 23, 2005, 05:33 AM
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Landgrave
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November 23, 2005, 05:53 PM
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Strong the force in you is. I think that there is no answer to the question. Everything is debatable... To some we are a virus, cancer, parasites, an annoying animal, supreme ruler of earth, or a parasitic plant, depending on your ideas, but we can may never agree. Perhaps that is why philosophy was invented in the first place; debate, make a loose rule, and then debate over it again and again until the idea is widely accepted. But then people will break way and come up with better explanations. Just try to keep on track please! We shouldn't break away into AI talk, movie reviews or such. OFF TOPIC: I just remembered when the Jehova Witness ladies came to my house, they tried to get me to convert, but I jokingly told them that I was a satanist. They keep coming back to "save me" ever since. | |
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November 23, 2005, 07:04 PM
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Landgrave
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November 24, 2005, 12:15 AM
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Agent Smith has a very good point
woot for the matrix The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not
be used until they try and take it away.
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